Comments on: Manhood: Chapter 5 - Sex and Spirit http://www.mattglover.com/wordpress/wordpress/2005/10/12/manhood-chapter-5-sex-and-spirit/ Thoughts from Australian cartoonist and pastor, Matt Glover Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:49:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: ¿johnman¿ http://www.mattglover.com/wordpress/wordpress/2005/10/12/manhood-chapter-5-sex-and-spirit/#comment-54 ¿johnman¿ Thu, 20 Oct 2005 11:11:47 +0000 http://www.mattglover.com/wordpress/wordpress/?p=26#comment-54 yeah i think the church has really created alot of problems for itself in the area of sex, if it wasn't seen as such a secret lets never talk about it thing, i dare say that the ammount of men in the church hooked on porn would be far less, as well the affairs and the abuse of children. And i fully agree on that it's guys who turn themselves on by the way they look at women, although there are lots of things that do not make it easy. yeah i think the church has really created alot of problems for itself in the area of sex, if it wasn’t seen as such a secret lets never talk about it thing, i dare say that the ammount of men in the church hooked on porn would be far less, as well the affairs and the abuse of children. And i fully agree on that it’s guys who turn themselves on by the way they look at women, although there are lots of things that do not make it easy.

]]> By: Earl Hipp http://www.mattglover.com/wordpress/wordpress/2005/10/12/manhood-chapter-5-sex-and-spirit/#comment-53 Earl Hipp Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:45:23 +0000 http://www.mattglover.com/wordpress/wordpress/?p=26#comment-53 I'm an author who is also working on the issue of Manhood and especially the topic of men helping boys on their journey to manhood. I'm looking for male contributors willing to answer questions on the topic. If men are interested, they can go to either the research site at: http://man-making.com or to my blog on the topic at: http://journeytomanhood.blogspot.com/ I'd very much appreciate links to these sites. Thanks Earl Hipp I’m an author who is also working on the issue of Manhood and especially the topic of men helping boys on their journey to manhood. I’m looking for male contributors willing to answer questions on the topic. If men are interested, they can go to either the research site at: http://man-making.com or to my blog on the topic at: http://journeytomanhood.blogspot.com/
I’d very much appreciate links to these sites. Thanks Earl Hipp

]]> By: Matt Glover http://www.mattglover.com/wordpress/wordpress/2005/10/12/manhood-chapter-5-sex-and-spirit/#comment-52 Matt Glover Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:20:59 +0000 http://www.mattglover.com/wordpress/wordpress/?p=26#comment-52 Digger, I'll slander your name every chance I can get....!! Digger, I’ll slander your name every chance I can get….!!

]]> By: Digger http://www.mattglover.com/wordpress/wordpress/2005/10/12/manhood-chapter-5-sex-and-spirit/#comment-50 Digger Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:02:33 +0000 http://www.mattglover.com/wordpress/wordpress/?p=26#comment-50 Yeah a lot of his stuff is pretty good, very worthhile stuff. As for that comment-how dare you slander my name in such a public forum! I would never say anything so crude... Yeah a lot of his stuff is pretty good, very worthhile stuff. As for that comment-how dare you slander my name in such a public forum! I would never say anything so crude…

]]> By: Lucas Garth http://www.mattglover.com/wordpress/wordpress/2005/10/12/manhood-chapter-5-sex-and-spirit/#comment-49 Lucas Garth Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:57:22 +0000 http://www.mattglover.com/wordpress/wordpress/?p=26#comment-49 The area of sexual discipleship is starting to gather more momentum. I don't think it's easy discussing for anyone, but I think that many people are a lot more free to talk about these areas outside the church. There are good topics looked into like "love the person" and "wait till you're ready" but it all seems to be about the first time and not much after there on. As current I don't have a girlfriend/wife. Interestingly I feel the only guidance the church has offered me on this one is "don't do it until you're married" and "guys are all about physical/women are all about emotions". Maybe the fact I'm not in "marriage counselling" means I don't need to know anything further.... To be honest I think that the church needs to take the lead in the sexual discipleship area, and for this we probably need to have just men and just women discussing different issues and instead of just saying "this is a common problem" try to unpack issues and their sources. Sexual issues could easily stem from bad family relationships etc. I've heard a few sermons from a guy from Careforce Church, Allan Meyer who promotes a program called Valiant Man which could be worth investigating. Certainly food for thought anyway. The area of sexual discipleship is starting to gather more momentum.
I don’t think it’s easy discussing for anyone, but I think that many people are a lot more free to talk about these areas outside the church. There are good topics looked into like “love the person” and “wait till you’re ready” but it all seems to be about the first time and not much after there on.
As current I don’t have a girlfriend/wife. Interestingly I feel the only guidance the church has offered me on this one is “don’t do it until you’re married” and “guys are all about physical/women are all about emotions”. Maybe the fact I’m not in “marriage counselling” means I don’t need to know anything further….

To be honest I think that the church needs to take the lead in the sexual discipleship area, and for this we probably need to have just men and just women discussing different issues and instead of just saying “this is a common problem” try to unpack issues and their sources. Sexual issues could easily stem from bad family relationships etc.

I’ve heard a few sermons from a guy from Careforce Church, Allan Meyer who promotes a program called Valiant Man which could be worth investigating. Certainly food for thought anyway.

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